Products, Vendors, CAD Files, Spec Sheets and More...
Sign up for LAWeekly newsletter
Anyone who has ever slept in a tree knows its dreams, has felt its slow respiration, has exchanged carbon dioxide and oxygen with it while listening to the sap move and hearing the songs it sings. One learns the levels of interconnectedness in the universe. That intertwining of the knowledge of animal, vegetable and mineral, that comprehension of all the different harmonies is what Herb Schaal brings to his landscape designs.
Herb Schaal, FASLA, landscape architect and founding principal of the Fort Collins EDAW office, has just won (in addition to all his other awards) the 2008 Designer of the Year Award from the American Horticultural Society. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I was in Washington DC at the presentation and said, ?EUR??,,????'?????<?This is very special to me because the first time this award was given was to Tommy Church. My father knew Tommy and took me to his office one day (His dad was a landscape architect) and Church talked about how to design a site. He said to look at the entire area, pick the best spot, and then DO NOT put the house there. Put the garden there.?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR??EUR??,,????'?????<?
Herb Schaal has always followed those words during his career. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?It is so important to capture the local sense of a place. His designs have so many layers of meaning, such a range of inclusions that analyzing a site he?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s designed is like examining the layers of an onion,?EUR??,,????'?????<? Herb says.
And, by the way, Herb actually did sleep in a tree for six weeks during his sophomore year at college. He?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?d lost his room at the boarding house where he was living, and there were only six weeks to go until the end of the term. So, he built himself a tree house in a canyon, ate all his meals out, studied at the library until 10 PM?EUR??,,????'?????<??oeso he had light?EUR??,,????'?????<??oeand showered at the gym. Apparently, he learned a great deal by listening to the many wisdoms of his tree, because he?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s brought so much balance and harmony to his designs.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?My father came over from Germany to build gardens. He knew Garrett Eckbo and Tommy Church. He actually worked on some of Tommy?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s projects. So when I grew up, I had to go into the field with my dad and it was a great experience. I didn?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?t realize it at the time; in fact, I resented it, but I learned how to set a rock and how to build a fence, thread pipe, pour concrete, and dig holes. It was great background for me.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
He got his degree from California State Polytechnic University at Pomona. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?We learned design from Dick Moore; and it was about finding a current reason for form, not copying some historical precedent. So, that?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s just been ingrained in me as a designer from the beginning ?EUR??,,????'?????<???(R) finding the rationale for form. Dick Moore went on to become the Department Chairman at North Carolina State, so when my training was completed, I called Dick and told him I wanted to do more schooling. Should I come? He said definitely. But when I got to North Carolina State he asked me to start teaching. Pretty amazing for somebody who didn?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?t feel well prepared to practice!?EUR??,,????'?????<?
Herb later went on to teach at The State University of New York at Syracuse while getting his masters degree. One of the important things that came out of that teaching position was that landscape architects need to use their ability to draw to understand design and to evolve design. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?The way drawing was being taught was not suitable for this. So I came up with a new method of drawing accurately in perspective that was quick, easy, and taught the students how to visualize design. It?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s called the proportional method. The method is been published widely and is taught now in most schools.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
?EUR??,,????'?????<?Four years later, I was determined to move back west. I didn?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?t have a place that I knew I was going to end up. We just packed up the car, three kids, and the U-Haul truck and drove west. I stopped in every office I could find along the way, starting with Ted Wirth?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s office in Billings, Montana. Ted did a lot of National Park Service work, which appealed to me, but before making a commitment, I wanted to see what else was available.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
Says Herb, ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I went up to Seattle and then down the coast. When I got to EDAW in the Bay area, the office had a whole different flavor and atmosphere than any place I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?d been. It was like a hippy commune, which, of course, appealed to me.
Everybody in that office was passionate about doing something important; and doing things that were socially relevant and environmentally relevant. They had just gotten a big land use planning commission and needed to staff the work. They needed me and I liked them, so I signed up.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?The project was the power plant and transmission line siting study for Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E), the biggest utility in California at the time. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?The challenge from PG&E was to site a nuclear power plant on the coast, and to determine what to do with 8,000 acres of undeveloped land.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
When Herb was doing his master?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s work at Syracuse, he had taken an ecology course. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?For my term project, I did an ecological environmental study using an overlay information system, like Ian McHarg was doing. When I showed that piece of work to the folks in the office who were just getting introduced to this way of doing work, they put me in charge of the transmission line routing study covering 385 square miles. That study proved to be a very important, successful study for EDAW and won a national ASLA award.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?Ed Williams and Howard Altman were doing the Open Space Plan for California, which not many people know about any more. But that was one of the studies that impressed me, and still impresses me of all EDAW?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s work. Its purpose was to set aside open space for the growing metropolitan areas in Southern California and the San Francisco Bay area. The work that they did set the bar high for whatever else was to come along.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?The PG&E project was the next major project, and I think it?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s because of the land use work that PG&E came to EDAW. They gave us access to their mainframe computer to do the computing. There were no laptops or polygon systems like we have now. It was all key punched, card cell systems. I applied the GIS to transmission line routing, which the old transmission line studies never did; I believe this revolutionized the way routes are selected. This was really cutting edge. We did things like overlay soil color with vegetation color, because in the coastal chaparral, if you have dark vegetation and you go through a light-colored soil to create an access road to build the transmission line tower, you leave a white scar on the hillside. We mapped land value, growth rates of forests, population density, and archeological sites.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?However, although I really enjoyed my chats with Garrett Eckbo commuting across the Bay Bridge from Berkeley, I hated the traffic. I hated what it was doing to my personal life, coming home late, never having time for anything, and I wanted to get back to a more bucolic setting. I told them I would have to live in a place where I was comfortable; not in the city. And they said, ?EUR??,,????'?????<?Well, we?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?ll do it. Make us an offer.?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR? It?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s always nice to be wanted!?EUR??,,????'?????<?
Herb eventually picked Fort Collins, Colorado and worked out of the basement of the house for awhile. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I immediately went to Platte River Power Authority, who was interested in siting a new power plant near Fort Collins. I showed them the work we had done on PG&E. I also proposed on eight parks for the City of Arvada, which is a suburb of Denver. I had only done one park in my life.
Ultimately, I got to do the Rock and Alpine Garden.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?One of my priorities was to try to get a project with the National Park Service. So when the project came up for the Grand Canyon, we went after that as well and got that job. We worked on new trails, restoring areas disturbed from water pipeline construction. We were now firmly established with the Park Service, which is still paying off today.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
Herb is most proud of the EDAW?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s two week Summer Student Program started in the 70s at his ranch, which won the ASLA President?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Award. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I bought teepees for the students to sleep in. The first week of each year of the program was input week. The second week was output. It was wonderful because EDAW was so interdisciplinary that I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?d have archeologists, historians, engineers, foresters, and biologists.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
?EUR??,,????'?????<?In the 90s I was finally able to focus on public gardens. When people ask me what EDAW stands for, my answer is Every Design A Winner. When I start a project, I still try to figure out what it is about what we?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?re going to do that will make it a winner. I believe that?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s why Fort Collins is the most award-winning office in the company. It?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s all in the attitude.?EUR??,,????'?????<?
His design ideas come from his ?EUR??,,????'?????<?search for a reason.?EUR??,,????'?????<? Says Schaal, ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I was always looking for a source for form, not going back to copying stuff or relying on tradition. So that was always in me to search for a current reason for form. As for his archetypal designs, ?EUR??,,????'?????<?I design for my legacy, but also for the public and the clients. The finished site has to be satisfactory to the client. It has to be satisfactory to us. But our goal is to make it satisfactory to the users. But we don?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?t compromise on any of that triad.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?When I think about all the things I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?ve been able to do over my 37-year career with EDAW, it?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s amazing. I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?ve gotten to go inland in China and Australia. I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?ve gotten to do work in 90 percent of the United States.
?EUR??,,????'?????<?I?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?ve become friends with governors, American ambassadors, the Rockefellers, and young, up and coming people in the profession. What more could you ask??EUR??,,????'?????<?
According to Harvard professor Howard Gardner?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s groundbreaking Multiple Intelligences Theory written in Frames of Mind (1983), the original seven intelligences were verbal/linguistic; mathematical/logical; spatial; kinesthetic; musical; interpersonal; and intrapersonal intelligence. The eighth, Naturalistic Intelligence, deals with sensing patterns and making connections to elements in nature. Primary examples of people having naturalistic intelligence are John Muir, Rachel Carson and Charles Darwin. ?EUR??,,????'?????<?Naturalistic intelligence involves the capacity to make consequential distinctions in nature?EUR??,,????'?????<??oebetween one plant and another, among animals, clouds, mountains, and the like.?EUR??,,????'?????<? (From ?EUR??,,????'?????<?Multiple Lenses on The Mind?EUR??,,????'?????<?, Howard Gardner. Copyright ???????(R)???????(C) Howard Gardner, 2005; Paper presented at the ExpoGestion Conference, Bogota Colombia, May 25, 2005)
Hewlett-Packard Birch Courtyard, Fort Collins, Colorado CCASLA 1981, Merit Award
Alpine Rock Garden, Denver Botanic Gardens, Colorado ASLA 1883, Merit Award
Community Garden Square and the Morrison Horticultural Center at the Denver Botanic Gardens, Colorado CCASLA 1985 Design Awards Program, Presidential Honor Award
Landscape Program, Grand Canyon National Park CCASLA 1987 Design Awards Program, Merit Award
Little Dry Creek Greenway, Englewood Colorado CCASLA 1988 Design Awards Program, Honor Award
Ameri Flora ?EUR??,,????'?????<?92 Entry, Discovery Plaza, Columbus Ohio CCASLA 1992 Merit Award
Hewlett-Packard Ledge Garden, Fort Collins Colorado CCASLA 1994, Merit Award
Planning the Green Zone, Rocky Mountain National Park, Colorado CCASLA 1994 Design Awards Program, Honor Award
Cheyenne Mountain Zoo, Colorado Springs, Colorado CCASLA 2000, Land Stewardship Award
Gateway Science School Courtyard, St. Louis, Missouri CCAASLA 2000 President?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Award of Excellence
Hershey?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Garden, Cleveland Botanical Garden, Cleveland, Ohio CCASLA 2000 Merit Award
Olson Family Garden, St. Louis, Missouri CCASLA 2000 Honor Award
Zellerbach Garden of Perennials, Strybing Arboretum, Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, California CCASLA 2002 Merit Award
Lena Meijer Garden Master Plan, Frederick Meijer Gardens, Grand Rapids, Michigan CCASLA 2002 President?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Award of Excellence
Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Environmental Garden and Accessible School House garden at Betty Ford Alpine gardens, Vail, Colorado CCASLA 2003 Honor Award
The Morton Arboretum Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Garden Master Plan, Lisle, Illinois CCASLA 2003 Honor Award
Lena Meijer Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Garden, Grand Rapids, Michigan CCASLA 2005 Merit Award for Design
University of Kentucky Arboretum Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s garden Master Plan, Lexington, Kentucky CCASLA 2005 Merit Award for Planning and Urban Design
High Plains Arboretum, Cheyenne, Wyoming CCASLA 2006 Merit Award
Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens, Boothbay, Maine CCASLA 2006 President?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Award of Excellence
The Morton Arboretum Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s garden, Lisle, Illinois CCASLA 2006 Honor Award for Design
South Fork Lodge On the Snake River, Idaho CCASLA 2006 Honor Award for Design
University of Wyoming Prexie?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s pasture, Laramie, Wyoming CCASLA 2007 Honor Award
Agilent Technologies Landscape master Plan for Sustainability, Loveland Colorado CCASLA 2007 Merit Award
Cheyenne Botanic gardens, Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s Village for Sustainable Living master Plan, Cheyenne, Wyoming CCASLA 2007 Merit Award
The Morton Arboretum Children?EUR??,,????'?????<???EUR?s garden, Lisle, Illinois Illinois Chapter of the AIA 2007, one of 150 Great Places in Illinois
American Horticultural Association 2008 Designer of The Year
Francisco Uviña, University of New Mexico
Hardscape Oasis in Litchfield Park
Ash Nochian, Ph.D. Landscape Architect
November 12th, 2025
Sign up to receive Landscape Architect and Specifier News Magazine, LA Weekly and More...
Invalid Verification Code
Please enter the Verification Code below
You are now subcribed to LASN. You can also search and download CAD files and spec sheets from LADetails.